nathanael

@nathanael@dalliard.ch

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[?]nathanael » 🌐
@nathanael@dalliard.ch

i give the token to a bot...

CC: @nixCraft@mastodon.social

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    [?]txtx 🇪🇺 » 🌐
    @txtx@mastodon.social

    @nathanael And there are people who hire a kidnapper, assassin, human trafficker...

    I don't need to live in a crime filled world because someone found a clever way to abuse a system.

    @nixCraft

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      [?]txtx 🇪🇺 » 🌐
      @txtx@mastodon.social

      @nathanael and anyway, who said there's no way to prevent or curtail abuse?

      For example: a hypothetical Mastodon server can be set to never accept more than one token per individual. So, ok, some jerk enables one bot. That's not a great success right? The fewer bots there are, the easier they are to fight.

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        [?]nathanael » 🌐
        @nathanael@dalliard.ch

        no i wouldn't. i wanted to show you, that your solution doesn't work like you intend it to work. you don't prove with a token that you are a certain age or are a real human. you just prove that the token was obtained by a real human

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          [?]txtx 🇪🇺 » 🌐
          @txtx@mastodon.social

          @nathanael To stop 99.9% of bots, this is enough, so it works.

          Russians working at a troll factory are creating millions of accounts. Having a few accounts isn't doing much for them.

          It should be possible to ban future tokens from an individual as well. Like any good bar, you ban someone from ever coming again if they are a nasty jerk.

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            [?]txtx 🇪🇺 » 🌐
            @txtx@mastodon.social

            @nathanael Every social media site is already or is in danger of becoming infested with propaganda agents, nazis, scammers, etc.

            Mastodon hasn't been hit as hard yet because it's not as popular — but from what I've read from server owners, it's heading in a bad direction now.

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              [?]txtx 🇪🇺 » 🌐
              @txtx@mastodon.social

              @nathanael It's no wonder that age verification is so popular amongst the general population. People don't want their kids to turn into nazi q-anon weirdos, as it turns out.

              Unfortunately, because much of the tech community is only pushing to maintain the broken status quo, politicians are responding without guidelines from the people who have the knowledge to change things for the better.

              This is what happens when we point our fingers while burying our head in the sand.

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                [?]txtx 🇪🇺 » 🌐
                @txtx@mastodon.social

                @nathanael Anyway sorry for the reply deluge. You are not wrong that there are possibilities to abuse this kind of hypothetical system.

                I will admit I get a little bit frustrated since I do think that there are valid uses for authentication. I don't like how it's done now, or many of the current proposals.

                But if we don't bother brainstorming better solutions, we'll be stuck with whatever is given to us.

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                  [?]nathanael » 🌐
                  @nathanael@dalliard.ch

                  all good. it seems to me that age verification doesn't work. it didn't work when i wasn't allowed to drink alcohol and i can't see it working online...

                    [?]txtx 🇪🇺 » 🌐
                    @txtx@mastodon.social

                    @nathanael I edited my post to be a little bit friendlier, hope you don't mind 🙏